#1 Comic Peeve
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    As a reader, what is your number one pet peeve when reading web comics?  I have no doubt in the world that I'm guilty of irritating habits myself, but there are a few things which turn me off new comics right away.

    I'll limit myself to just one. For me, it's those comics which start with a title page, then a Chapter title page, then a few random sketches, character introductions, or text intros - if I have to wade through more than two introductory pages before getting to the actual comic, I will leave the site immediately.  I'm a busy guy.  I have YouTube videos to watch.
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    I think it might stem from the want to get things on the site, having content, that people wind up doing that.  I also know that we're trying to get some buffer in on Baujahr right now, and I plan on having a title page for the next "book," one as a separation, and two as some extra lead.

    I think with experience, and some breathing room, people wind up moving the sketches and such to other places on their sites.  As far as two title pages, that's probably more to make it feel like a book or graphic novel.  What it would feel like to read it in print.  But I still think it's more "you should have XX pages on your site before you show it to anyone/put up ads/do whatever" that people want to hit.

    I'm still trying to figure out what I'm doing to really have any nitpicks on anyone else's sites yet.  Everything I see other people do is exciting to me, to just have new ideas and such to try to integrate into our site.  And then, once I go too far, I'm sure I'll have to go back and start editing, taking things out, simplifying again, to just the stuff that actually works.  I accidentally broke the site this week, for a couple days, because of some security plug-in someone else mentioned in a forum that I had no idea how to make work right.  And I've been at this a year or so.  At this point in guitar, I knew all my open chords, my barre chords, some licks, could piece out some classical songs.  That's when I felt a breakthrough.  I don't know why I expected running a webcomic site would be on a similar timeline.
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    @captaintemerity I have no problem with the title and chapter pages. I expect them.  But following that, everything else that is not the comic is (in my opinion) just excess bloat and shouldn't be part of the comic continuity.  While you are probably right about why it is included, I'd say a better course is just not to advertise until you have enough actual comic content to display.  The sketches and notes and what-have-you should, IMO, be left for a compendium in a print volume, preferably at the back where it doesn't get in the way of reading enjoyment, just as i feel sketches and such should be optional on a website and not part of the main flow.

    I'm sure many people feel the exact opposite, but yeah, that's my personal gripe ;)


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    I don't tend to read comics that are drawn poorly.
    Not saying mine is the best on the world or anything close, but I like to look at comics that have more of a professional feel with the art.
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    Mine is kind of a mix of 2 things...

    1 : too much to read per panel

    2 : bad website layout
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    "I don't tend to read comics that are drawn poorly."  Guilty!

    "1 : too much to read per panel" Occasionally guilty!

    "2 : bad website layout"
    Guilty!
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    Chrcontagious, I don't really disagree with you.  I just think I can see why it's sometimes like that.  It doesn't bother me so much, but I get why it would bother you (or others).

    Since I'm still learning, and have a long ways to go, I can't really point fingers as to what I see wrong with other people's site when I'm too busy pointing at the things wrong with mine.  It was just a couple weeks ago on here that it was pointed out to me that I've been setting the DPI too high on my comic posts, and that's part of why the site loaded so slow.  I knew it was slow, I just didn't know why.

    I know my layout is a challenge.  With some of the amazing looking sites out there, the expectations from the average reader are deservedly high.  Maybe we can turn this thread (or start a new one) into a critique/advice thread, to help people (like me, and hopefully others) improve.
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    @captaintemerity

    "Since I'm still learning, and have a long ways to go, I can't really
    point fingers as to what I see wrong with other people's site when I'm
    too busy pointing at the things wrong with mine."


    Hey, no one needs more improvement than I do.  I'm well aware that I can't possibly compete with anyone at any kind of professional level, art or site; I just don't have the skill. I'm still willing to point out what I don't like, though.  I mean, I don't make movies - and if I did, they would certainly suck - but I can still spot bad directorial or acting choices.

    "Maybe we can turn this thread (or start a new one) into a
    critique/advice thread, to help people (like me, and hopefully others)
    improve."


    Good thread idea, put a more positive spin on it.  I was intending to learn from this thread anyway, applying what people said they didn't like in general to my own stuff and preparing to cringe (and hopefully fix) ;)
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    Constant posting of filler material will turn me off of a webcomic. A regular update schedule, even if it's once a week, is better then randomly posting pages on different days.
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    If I have to narrow it down to one thing that's easy to do/understand without more than a 101 understanding of comics (and besides bad writing which is kind of a given) it would be backgrounds. If backgrounds, or some indication thereof, don't take up at least half the page on average, then I'm out. If I don't get what's going on spacially then that really takes me out of the story.
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    Bad art and really overdone jokes often turn me off, but those things tend to get better as the comic "finds itself." What's really a dealbreaker for me is a gaudy and/or hard to navigate site. I found one that I had to click three times to get the text readable and I gave up.

    Also, sometimes an art style just doesn't catch my eye, but doesn't mean it's bad!
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    Spelling or grammar issues. I know it's a pain to open up the the graphic file again and tweak the text, but it's really unprofessional looking and breaks all immersion.
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    AlienShoresBand, I know that sometimes a comic may be really good and have not so good art. It's just my personal preference not to read those strips/books. It explains why I've never read the original Sandman books... *ducks*
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    Pave, I can't agree more: webcomics that often misspell simple werds update after update are one of my biggest bugbears.
    I go for a fairly wide range of art styles, capabilities and story foci, but I find that the ones which get gratuitously vulgar tend to drop off the list. I mean, vulgarity can be hilarious in the handful of comics which do it well, but is used as a crutch by waaaaaay too many others.
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    I'd say, off the top of my head, I'm not a fan of webcomics that rely on nothing but pure "fan service" (mostly of the T&A variety), just for the sakes of getting clicks, and rely far too much on it to keep their numbers up.
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    My biggest pet peeve is an irregular update schedule, especially if I know the artist works at it full time. Something about it screams unprofessional to me, idk, maybe I'm too harsh. 
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